If God loves everyone, why would he bear to let ANYONE go to hell and burn for eternity? Even I dont agree…?

that a mass murderer/serial rapist should burn in hell forever... Imagine unbearable pain searing through every nerve fiber you have in your body. Imagine your eyes melting and oozing out from your sockets. Sharp instruments piercing various parts of your body sending it to convulsions .The blood in your veins literally boiling. Your brain will be fried. Despite these extreme tortures, there will be no death, in the annihilation sense... NOBODY, and I said NOBODY should deserve this kind of torture (we are not talking about hours, weeks, months but for ETERNITY!!!! )... a person with unforgivable sins should be chained, shackled and imprisoned for life....Given just enough food for surviving, reliving the utmost misery a human can conceive...until he realizes he's folly, his misdeed...even when there’s no turning back for him. His soul would finally rest in peace after passing away. Hell is never a solution… So why does God even let hell even exist in the first place?

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  1. John Mc Says:

    Good, sounds like you are starting to think for yourself. Keep it up. Its all made up anyway.

  2. Twilight Says:

    She doesn’t. The worst you endure is Sheol, lost to the presence of God, if you believe the literal word of the Old testament.

  3. Athena Says:

    Personally I think Hell is a creation of the Human mind to get people to fear the authority, using religion.

    We’re already living hell!

  4. freckles Says:

    He wants you to love him for what he has done for you, for creating you, giving you all your needs, loving you. If you don’t that is your choice but he does say you will be sent there if you do not believe on him.

  5. jeffd_57 Says:

    Nowhere in the Bible does it say that people who are unsaved burn for ever in Hell, even an angry God is not THAT cruel.

    There are two words that are translated as “hell” in the Bible. The first is “Hades” which literally means the grave and the second is “Gehenna” which means a future place of punishment where you are destroyed by fire and is also described as “the lake of fire”. (Fire is used throughout the bible as a symbol of judgment and final destruction).

    The key that almost everybody fails to see is that destruction, even everlasting and eternal destruction, is simply an end of life.

    Incorrect Christian teaching has so completely focused our attention to fear of the fire itself, that no one considers that you don’t burn in a fire forever! Fire represents destruction! You simply die, and very quickly there is nothing left but ashes, and ashes do not suffer for all eternity. So believers get eternal life and those who rejected God simply cease to exist.

    We have been taught for generations by a religious system, in contradiction to the whole of scripture, that the human soul is immortal, in order to propagate this misconception about eternal suffering. But the bible itself sets this straight, stating plainly that the unsaved sinning soul actually does die, it ceases to exist.

    God is not so cruel as to punish us forever, the unsaved cease to exist and it’s the saved who live for ever.

    There is one exception. Three people are described as being tormented in the Gehenna fire day and night for ever and ever and they are the three most evil beings of all time: Satan, The Antichrist and his False Prophet. No one else is described as suffering eternal torment, only those three. Everyone else either is extinguished or receives eternal life.

    In the story of “The Rich man and Lazarus”. (Luke 16:22-31) Jesus spoke of a rich man who dies, and was in torment in Hades (the grave). Many a Christian preacher will site this scripture as proof of hell being such a place of torment for everybody, but that Hell is the OTHER Hell, Gehenna – the lake of fire not Hades (the grave) and in this parable the Rich Man is in Hades (the grave). And as we already saw, only three people are tormented in the fire for ever, the rest just die.

    So in light of the clear and consistent biblical declarations that death is the ultimate penalty (Rom.6:23), and eternal life the ultimate gift of God (ICor.15:53-54), it becomes apparent that Jesus told this parable only to illustrate a point.

    In the story, another man, Lazarus, a beggar during his human life is now in heaven, in “the bosom of Abraham”. And a conversation ensues in which the rich man, now in Hades (the grave), asks Lazarus for some water, to cool his tongue. There is also a request made for Lazarus to be allowed to go back to the land of the living to warn people, and an admonition that people would not listen, even if someone came back from the dead.

    The obvious points of the story are first, that it is too late when we die to make the decisions that we should have made during our lives.

    Second, the story makes the strong point that even if people saw someone resurrected from the dead, they still would not be convinced to heed God’s warnings.

    And in light of Christian beliefs concerning the resurrection, especially the bible’s teaching that no one had ever been resurrected before Jesus came (ICor.15:20-23), these things indicate that it was simply a story used for illustration.

    It would have been a pretty dry tale, if in the parable Jesus had placed the Rich Man in the real Hades (grave) where he would be as dead as a doornail and could not speak. And before the resurrection of the dead from the grave and their judgement, no one goes to Gehenna, the lake of fire, where they are destroyed and cease to exist, so Jesus couldn’t place him there, so Jesus spoke of a fictional “Hell” just for the purposes of the story.

    Likewise no one goes to a literal “bosom of Abraham”, nor do conversations transpire between heaven and the grave.

    In fact, the bible clearly shows that the dead are in an unconscious state, and can not have any conversations with anyone (Ecc.9:5) ( Ps.146:3-4) until the day of resurrection.

    If “The Rich man and Lazarus” story reflects reality, then every Biblical statement which directly addresses the state of the dead sleeping and not knowing anything is false. Since that would make God a liar, that cannot be true. On the other hand, if this is a parable, then it fits the form of an illustration designed to make a point. In this case, we a very important point in the last verse. ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be persuaded if someone rises from the dead.’

    But how can we be sure that this is in fact a parable?

    When we examine the story closely, we find that for it to be true, there are several impossible things to be believed.
    First, heaven and hell (or Purgatory) must be literally within arm’s reach. How else would Lazarus be able to reach with his wet finger to touch the rich man? It is impossible to imagine that the saints in heaven would be comfortable watching their neighbours being tortured by flames.

    Next, while the two places must be within such close proximity, there is a great chasm between the two which prevents contact. In other words, it is both within arm’s reach and not within arm’s reach. Finally, we should remember that in the proposed afterlife, the rich man and Lazarus are both spirits. How can a spirit with no body have eyes, a tongue, or a finger?

    This story is a parable, with its concluding line being the reason for the story. No other option is available. Jesus made it clear to the Pharisees that if they did not listen to His teaching, there would be no more hope for them. Their hearts would be too hard.

    Conclusion

    The explicit statements of scripture make it very clear that when man dies, he enters a sleep-like state where there is no consciousness. He will awake from that state when God calls him at the resurrection. The saints will rise to meet Him in the air, and the wicked will call for the rocks to fall on them. Later the wicked will all be raised to judgment and condemnation.

    The beauty of this hope is all-surpassing. We have an opportunity to follow in Christ’s footsteps, through the grave into glory. But this message is dimmed down to nothing if we accept the un-biblical doctrine of the immortal soul. This makes the resurrection a meaningless game of Legos where God simply assembles the pieces at the end of time. The fact is that the resurrection is a miracle of marvellous proportions, and we should never diminish it by human inventions.

    “But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised; and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain.” 1 Cor 15:13-14

    We will rise in that day. Those who sleep will awake. What a wonderful hope! Let us not demean it with cunningly devised fables (2 Pet 1:16) or doctrines of devils (1 Tim 4:1).

    I know most Christians will fight me on this because it’s not what they have been taught, but it is what a literal reading of scripture actually says when you line up every piece of scripture on these topics.

  6. istvan c Says:

    “You are not a god who delights in evil; no wicked person finds refuge with you; the arrogant cannot stand before you. You [God] hate all who do evil” [Ps. 5:4-5]

  7. Matt A Says:

    Hell was created for satan and his angels. God doesnt want anyone to go there, but people choose to go there by sinning. Jesus is the lamb of God. Just like the passover lamb’s blood saved the Jews from death, Jesus’s blood covers us so that we do not see death. God made it so heaven is open for everyone, its easy, all you have to do is ask. What more can he do, sin must be paid for. And God will not allow sin to be in his presence in heaven. So rather than serving God as their master, God sends them to live with their master Satan who will be in hell with them

  8. onegammyleg Says:

    Hiya

    First off the Bible doesn’t support the idea of hellfire , a place of torture.
    That is a pagan Unchristian teaching and is ‘NOT’ from the Bible.
    True Christians do not believe or follow such a teaching.

    But it is however necessary for the wicked to be destroyed.
    If people choose to be rebellious against the creator and bring ruin to both his creation and to his loyal followers , then it is not love to keep them around.

    Gods love for his righteous followers means that wicked ones must be cut off.
    this will be accomplished at the coming battle of Armageddon.

    For more Bible based information please feel free to email me.

  9. mustardseed Says:

    Hell was created for satan and his demons. However humans became “game” after the fall.

    God has made a way for us all to go to heaven by sending His son to die for us so that none of us will go to hell. We choose hell God doesn’t choose that for us. Since you know about hell and I am sure you have been told about Jesus it is up to you. I think if you or anyone has not made that decision yet I would think it is worth every effort you have to seek truth and to never settle until you have found God.

    Hell is not what should draw us to God but it should make you rise up a little and question the condition of your soul and get yourself straight.

    I am very conscious of hell and those in my life that know me I truly try to work in their life in an acceptable receiving fashion how God loves them and how He has made a better way for them.

    Hell is just what you described and in the Bible God mentions it more than He does Heaven so you can’t say He didn’t warn us.

    The choice is ours.

    In response to the long winded guy above me (not that I amnot long winded ;) ….God doesn’t mince words, if He gave a vivid illustration of hell such as with Lazurus and the rich guy it was to prove a very important point that hell is real, that it is a place of torture and there is nothing you can do about it afterwards. I also believe it was more than a parable because he gave the begger honor by calling him by his name “Lazurus” and not just referring to him simple as a begger where the rich man had no further identity. Why would God refer to hell as the eternal lake of fire, if it is not eternal?

    And Jesus said in Matt 25:41-43 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

  10. aslam09221 Says:

    Your agreement is not necessary at all! You agree or not But criminals must be punished to maintain the justice, Law and Commandments. Why criminals don’t use their senses and respect the humanity?

  11. B.Hound Says:

    1. I am an atheist. I don’t believe any of it.

    2. That does not mean I don’t understand it. I can quote you scripture that says there is a hell. It is not a means of tormenting people, however. I have independently studied the bible and I know what it says.

    3. Why am I so much smarter than the rest of the bible’s readers? I am not. I lack an agenda. I am retired. I made a good living as a troubleshooter. I know how to gain necessary information.

    4. I am not selling anything. I am an atheist as I said and I do not believe in a god, a jesus, a heaven, or a hell. I am just another species of animal.

  12. cbruno.linux Says:

    I would go as far to say that God doesn’t send anyone to hell, they send themselves there….hell is the complete and utter absence of God in a person’s being. In the New Testament, the only unforgivable sin is to blashpheme the Holy Spirit…

    The Holy Spirit is responsible for the forgiveness of sins…to reject God’s love and grace is the only thing which will stop God from saving us….its our choice…God doesn’t want it like this at all..God loves us soo much.

    A lot of emphasis is put on hell…and it seems like it doesn’t take much to make it there….on the contrary I really think there are a lot less people there than we think….for instance, the Catholic Church has never declared that anyone is in hell (Other than the Devil and demons, etc.)…the Catholic Church only declares people who are thought to be in heaven, we call them saints.

    The people in the world who are viewed saints are those who have given us examples of complete and utter selflessness…think about all those fire fighters who rescued people from the WTC….those guys really took what Jesus said literally….”There is no greater love than one who gives up his life for a friend”…the secret to heaven is to put yourself last and server others…”the first will be last and the last will be first”….and the coolest thing, and Jesus talked about this alot…the Kingdom of Heaven is among you…you can be part of heaven today by helping others…giving to the poor….making friends with people who aren’t so likeable….its those things God cares about the most.

  13. be nice Says:

    That is what you would like to be!!! But God does not love every one. In fact he heats a lot of people and he loves a few.

    the ones that he does love are the ones who are doing what all three religions are mentioning, like be good to others even if they are bad to you, and do not still, lie, kill with no rezone, and so on.

    So I hope you figured out what type of people I am talking about the ones gives god love and respects and to acknowledge his power over all, in return you would get love mercy and forgiveness not by giving money to the priest or to go sing and chase lady at the same time in the Church? no no I am talking to the spiritual that you have it when you feel you are in touch with the creator.

  14. Miles Says:

    God is indeed Merciful, mercy that is non -comparable, we are all given freewill and freedom to decide whats best in accordance to what is good while we live, but when we go overboard, and not repent then even God is also JUST, and we are judged by what we have done with our lives. Peace be with you and God bless you always!

  15. Xyleisha Says:

    God doesn’t.
    Hell is the common grave of mankind.

    Think about this: Upright people went to hell. A Catholic translation of the Bible quotes Job 14:13 as reading: “[Job prayed:] Who will grant me this, that thou mayst protect me in hell,* and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a time when thou wilt remember me?” Please note that God himself said Job was “a man blameless and upright, fearing God and turning aside from bad.” (Job 1:8)
    *other translations use Sheol or the grave.

    Also, “For David speaketh concerning him [Jesus Christ], … Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.” (Acts 2:25-27) The fact that God did not “leave” Jesus in hell implies that Jesus was in hell, or Hades, at least for a time.

    Did Jesus deserve to be tortured? Not at all. He was simply in a state of death.

    The Bible speaks repeatedly of the wicked being “cut off”.
    The fiery Gehenna Jesus spoke of meant much to the people he spoke to. The Valley of Hinnom (Gehenna) was outside the walls of Jerusalem. For a time it was the site of idolatrous worship including child sacrifice. In the first century Gehenna was used as the incinerator for the cities filth. Bodies of dead animals were thrown into the valley to be consumed in the fires, to which sulfur (or brimstone) was added to help the burning along. Bodies of executed criminals were thrown there. Living humans were not thrown there so it was not seen as a place of torture or conscious torment.

    Consider also Jeremiah 7:31. People were burning their sons and daughters to which God says “… a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.” If it had never come up in God’s heart, how could he come to do something similar on a much larger scale?

  16. Quincy S Says:

    Ok, quick disclaimer… while I do agree with some of the things I am about to say, the ideas are really not my own, but those of J.S. Mill. I am only presenting his argument as a response to this question, not to necessarily debate whether I agree or disagree with it.

    In Mill’s book, Three Essay’s on Religion, he provides a logical argument on the “essence” of god, or whether he exists at all. He points out that god, if he exists, may not be omnipotent. The reason for this is the various “amoral” aspects of nature and his seemingly unfair administration of justice. For now, I will just deal with the “he exists” part of the argument…

    Mill claims that there are things that occur that would be considered “acts of nature.” As we know, nature does not see things by any particular code of morality. Things occur whether or not we feel they should, or whether it seems they have any particular purpose. For example, when Hurricane Katrina or the Indian Ocean Tsunami took the life of thousands of people, there seemed to be no particular reason for the meaningless death.

    Now suppose that god had a reason for taking those lives. He took them in spite of the fact that he was aware of the pain and suffering that would result. Now if there was a lesson to be learned from the loss of these lives through nature taking them, he could have simply willed this lesson in to our minds. However, he chooses not to do this, and instead allows us to go through pain and suffering which he could have prevented.

    From here Mill explains that god, if he exists, is either evil – in the case of him allowing for death and destruction with no real meaning – or he is NOT omnipotent yet good, but simply lacks the power to deal with such things. That is the argument in a nutshell. (I could explain it much easier in person, but this will have to do.)

    Mill ultimately decides to believe that god is good, however not omnipotent. So, god still may love everyone, but be unable to do anything about the laws (for lack of a better word) that govern the universe.

    Do you feel me? I know it is a lot to soak in. My suggestion would be to read the book. Personally, I don’t believe there is a god, and Mill’s argument for me equals a lack of such a presence. However, his argument just as equally can support a theist’s claim in his existence. It’s all about what helps you sleep at night.

    I know this was a long post, but I hope it helped. =)

  17. Ms_kitty Says:

    The bible is man made and does not represent God. There is no devil or fires of hell. That is just control and fear mongering by the church to keep people in line and at church.

    There is justice however in the spirit world. We judge ourselves, no one else and those that are murders etc go to the lowest level where it is dark until they are ready to take responsibilty for their actions. Eternal progression is open to everyone.

  18. pugwashjw Says:

    So it just goes to show that this is a false teaching.
    God does not love…unconditionally…
    He demands a certain standard. And if you know his laws and ignore them, you will be punished.
    But not forever.
    “Hell” is simply mans grave. and will vanish along with death;
    [ Hell=Hades]
    (Revelation 20:14) And death and Ha?des were hurled into the lake of fire. This means the second death, the lake of fire.
    No death=no graves.
    And when we die, our sins are paid for,
    (Romans 6:23) For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.
    ‘Wages’ is full payment. So our death is full payment for whatever wrong things we have done in this life.
    There is nothing ‘owing’ to be further punished for.

  19. Jack Says:

    “There are venial sins and there are mortal sins. It is one thing to owe ten thousand talents, another to owe but a farthing. We shall have to give an accounting for an idle word no less than for adultery. But to be made to blush and to be tortured are not the same thing; not the same thing to grow red in the face and to be in agony for a long time. . . . If we entreat for lesser sins we are granted pardon, but for greater sins, it is difficult to obtain our request. There is a great difference between one sin and another.” St. Jerome (“Against Jovinian” c. 393 A.D.)
    >>>>>>>>>he bible refers to God as a “just God”. Remember He says he is perfect and flawless. Therefore, He cannot allow sin. He provided a way for sinful people to be reconciled to Himself through Jesus – the perfect Son of God. Jesus lived a sinless life and was the only One capable of being the perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world. He willingly agreed with His Father to go to the cross and be killed for all the sins of every person ever born. Jesus took on the weight of all that – can you even imagine? So that is why God can forgive us – because Christ took our sin on Himself – he paid the price. So now we don’t have to go out and find a lamb to sacrifice for atonement as they did in the Old Testament. God did have a law in the Old Testament – a way to receive atonement for sin – it was a very rigid, detailed regiment that included sacrificing animals – but not many could follow the law. So God provided a better way…Jesus. God loves His children and wants them to be with Him but when they sin, they are separated from Him. Only those who are drawn by the Father and choose to accept Christ, believe that He is who He says He is and He did what He says He did, will be admitted into the Kingdom of Heaven. I pray that because of your question, you are being drawn to Him. He is alive and well today and the One who can forgive you and set you free
    The false doctrine of “Once Saved, Always Saved” seems to have blossomed with Fundamentalist Christians although it’s origins date back to 16th century Calvinism. The perfect example of how this doctrine is false is Judas Iscariot. He believed in Jesus Christ, walked with Him, was one of the Twelve and was given the same powers from Him as the others. Yet what Christian believes that Judas Iscariot went to Heaven? According to this doctrine, I would say Fundamentalist Christians would have to believe Judas is in Heaven as he more than met the requirements of salvation according to this doctrine.
    Another good example is Lucifer (Satan) – abided in Heaven, knew God Himself, lived with God Himself yet he was not “saved” when given the opportunity for he now resides in Hell as punishment for the sin of pride. This sin occurred after having known and accepted God.

  20. Erica R Says:

    This so called place of torture is a fabrication of men.

  21. arafat shaikh Says:

    GOD loves those who follow his commamndments as it is given in surah imran(3:31,32) of the HOLY QURAN,it is his mercy that those who have invented lies against GOD, that GOD has given to them a specified period of earthly life to repent and to become truly faithful to almighty god and to do righteous deeds to attain the good pleasure of god in order to attain salvation.
    tell me,did not almighty GOD had warned the humankind that if they did not become truly and rightfully faithful to GOD then they would to suffer torment in hell forever.
    again how can you expect a pious man in the sight of GOD as well as a wicked man in the sight to attain the same state in the hereafter.
    it is the duty of humankind that this earthly life is a place of trial and examination for humanbeings,the group which has true faith in one GOD and does righteous deeds will attain heaven and fellowship with GOD while those who disbelieve in GOD and do wicked deeds will be sent to hell.since their is no time duration in heaven and hell and no death comes in both the places,hence a person in hell be tormented in hell forever for his disbelief in ONE TRUE GOD.did not GOD tell IN THE HOLY QURAN not to assign partners to one true GOD and that he neither begets nor is he begotten and that those who say that he is three in one has committed blasphemy and that jesus(peace be upon him)was a spirit and a true servant of GOD and not the “begotten son of GOD”.did not GOD tell the humankind to beware satan is an arch enemy to you(HOLY QURAN).did not GOD tell us that for committing blasphemies in the name of GOD the torment of hell is forever.hence those who pay heed to the advice of GOD for him the bliss heaven is forever and those who invent and blasphemies against GOD ALMIGHTY and commit major sins without repentance will have to end up in hell forever,this is true justice.

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